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I see it hurts, was i hitting a tender point?
I realy must say you americans is very unbelevebal, dont you see what the military done , dont you now what happend in IRAK , US is bombing and a lot of children is killd, they have done no harm, and whats happend in israel, i read today that this US supported man Sharon was behind 800 man killd in SABRA and SHATILa, never read that, or is you blind. What can you say to all these who was killd in vetnam, suported by bigg religions, and blessing by priests, why you never say anything abaout this sacrifice of your young men to the altar of war, have you never read what is in the bible, dont bee lika kain who killd hes brother, no you must even love you animy.
this dont fitt inn the picture of JW so I understand that you dont want to tell this things.
And to celia, i havce benJw for over 40 yars, and i have done more examine than you ever can emagian, even read franz book,
but I have never this thinking that we are perfekt, none are, ofcourse you can find peopel who are doing wrong things, we are also imperfekt, but we are one of the only religions who lerning to be brother ans sisters all over the word, we are not americans or germans or jude o arab, we ar brothers, and we never go aout killing anyone, as other religions have done, that is the most important for me, i think all the crap some of you are looking for is only patetic, look at the real crimes who this make who are telling us to go aout killing our brothers , never herd one world of that here.
happy man
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Who is realy Brainwashd ?
by happy man ini read a lot her that jw is brainwashd, and some of you make a bigg point aout of this, i dont agree, i think we can think ourselfs you put youself on high placese when you say this, i think we must acept what other peopel think and dont say they are dummis or something like that, who no the truth, perhaps you all have wrong, something to think abaout when you put out your very high complianing.. i can give you one link too see who realy is brainwashd, it is you peopel here, you as say good bless us, read and think,.
http://www.rense.com/general15/tr.htm
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Who is realy Brainwashd ?
by happy man ini read a lot her that jw is brainwashd, and some of you make a bigg point aout of this, i dont agree, i think we can think ourselfs you put youself on high placese when you say this, i think we must acept what other peopel think and dont say they are dummis or something like that, who no the truth, perhaps you all have wrong, something to think abaout when you put out your very high complianing.. i can give you one link too see who realy is brainwashd, it is you peopel here, you as say good bless us, read and think,.
http://www.rense.com/general15/tr.htm
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happy man
I read a lot her that JW is brainwashd, and some of you make a bigg point aout of this, I dont agree, I think we can think ourselfs you put youself on high placese when you say this, i think we must acept what other peopel think and dont say they are dummis or something like that, who no the truth, perhaps you all have wrong, something to think abaout when you put out your very high complianing.
I can give you one link too see who realy is brainwashd, it is you peopel here, you as say good bless US, read and think,
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Being Poor And Ignorant is Bad
by metatron inafter many decades in the "truth", i found myself without a college.
degree and little money.. now, after walking away, my health is better - and i got a 2 yr. degree (so far) and a nice ira package.. folks, mae west was right: "i've been rich and i've been poor.
and i can tell you being rich is much better".
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please my friend I dint see trhe connecktion, i been a jw for 40 years, i have my on firm and never been poor, why, i think bibel help you to bee unest, then it is esyer for you tog have customers, you also try to have a good moral, that is also something who helps to get confidence from custumers. So i think if you are a jW it is more easy to like mee have a firm, and be your one boss.
If yiou suddenly broke the ruels, then it can bee problem if you start too cheet peopel, and try too get bigg money inn a bad way, like many inn the so called word, then you will have problem, thets only a few points from your man in sweden -
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Quietly singing Praises' to Jah
by plmkrzy ini was reading "remembering" and it made me remember how deflated the air always seems when it comes time to stand and join together in song.. once in a while, depending on the cong.
i was visiting , someones voice would stand out in the crowd and sound like they were actually singing from their heart.
i remember the last assembly i attended several months ago, the man sitting next to me stood up to sing and i swear you could hear him over everyone else and there were over 11,000 people in attendance that day.
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happy man
Hello there, here in Sweden we still have the pianoplayer, my wife, and also a violinist, so it is not like you say, only from tejp or CD
once aain, you putt out the wrong messege, why?
You are inn some way forced to see evrything widh negative glases, also inn this not so important thing, funnyn peopel
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These who realy can complain
by happy man ini see so much overeaktion on this site, when it comes to complain to jw, evry littel thing you can find you blow upp to very bigg thing.. i want you americans too look at this link, there you will see peopel who realy is badley treted, and have very bigg reason.
to complain too what happend.
when you see the pictures, i think all this as you talk abaout here as important is just dust.. http://hosting.menanet.net/~hab/hab/
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Hello ther, i think you are a very nice person, sorry that you leave us, but ovcourse evry man must do what he think is wright.
I cab tell you that I have very much expiriens, born 47, 5 chikdren, 2 not Jw, i hav ealoso read this site silent lambs, i have even mail kontakt whid the lady who are driving it. What i want to say is, you have bad peopel all over, and this abse is terribel but i sure of that it is very unusal inn jW, if you have 600,000 JW in US perhaps 100 is doing this bad thing,, here inn Sweden i never heard of this things, so when some of you try to say that this is something who is more frekvent in JW thsn in other religion i an SURe it is not, craycy peopel you can find all over, if you ben a Jw yoyu now that we have radher hard ruewl on moral things, most of peopel here I notice say they are too hard. The problem when it comes to abuse is to now what happend, i can tell that here in Sweden it was a bigg news abauot a girl who said she was abused by here fadher, he get many year inn prision, after 2 years she say that it was all all a lie, her mother an she hade make a complott , to get money from the man, all this show this is very difficult things. wery hard to handel, so i think to try to give the messege that this is comen in JW is to tell something who not is the truth.At the same time Immust say Camis story is to much, i feel very sorry for her, almost unbelevebel things happend , i think it is almost like what happend too Jobb, I for myself is confident thar she will have Jehovas blessing, and when the kingdom come she will be ther, so much suffer is more than a girl can take, and i also see she been handeld bad, i think she hade meet evel peopel inn jehovas organisation, they are therm, but not for ever,
warm gratings from sweden.
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Y R Active JWs Here???
by plmkrzy inyoull have to excuse me im still trying to play catch-up with whats going on here but.. this is addressed to all jws in good standing, or anyone else who may want to comment.. i will appreciate any insight from anyone regarding this.. why are you here????
are you trying to save a few apostates?.
you know your playing with satan.. is there someone in the gb giving a chosen few permission to post here?
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Well i am a JW in good standard, hde even been elder for over 20 year, leve 2 years ago, problems widh my boys, why I am here, some one must try to correkt all this leing going on here, and i am not afraid, i dont think anyone is forbidding you to try to answer qestions and try to tell peopel who it ism when other trying to do the opposite, perhaps I am a JW inn the liberal wing, but I am not lonley. I i dint now what typ of peopel i talk too, perhaps we as are inn here, think we are doing this beaucuse someone want it, i dont agree widh the policy that these who leve us is evela peopel, and i think it will be a cange on that not so fare away,
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no blood cards this year!
by DIM inlast night at meeting they told us to just use our blood cards from last year.
in the past they've always told us how important it was to get it signed every year so that people could see our current views as jw's.....doesn't this new arangement negate everything they've ever said in regards to this?
absolutely nuts!.
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happy man
From Sweden i can tell that this issu is not only US related, in our cong, we have the same adjustment, no cards, and they say it will come new info soon.
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These who realy can complain
by happy man ini see so much overeaktion on this site, when it comes to complain to jw, evry littel thing you can find you blow upp to very bigg thing.. i want you americans too look at this link, there you will see peopel who realy is badley treted, and have very bigg reason.
to complain too what happend.
when you see the pictures, i think all this as you talk abaout here as important is just dust.. http://hosting.menanet.net/~hab/hab/
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I see so much overeaktion on this site, when it comes to complain to JW, evry littel thing you can find you blow upp to very bigg thing.
I want you americans too look at this link, there you will see peopel who realy is badley treted, and have very bigg reason
to complain too what happend. When you see the pictures, i think all this as you talk abaout here as important is just dust.
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Corruption within the elder ranks!
by JohnSteadman ini have been serving as a presiding overseer in the united kingdom for over 20 years, in my time i have seen the organisation develop and grow both spiritually and financially.
i have seen elders come and go but more so than any other time i have witnessed lies and cover ups from elders, co's, bethel members which have caused me great upset.
i do not wish to go into any details but would like to warn people of the dishonesty that has become jehovah's organisation.
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happy man
Hello John,
i have also bee an elder fro over 20 year, ended 2 years ago, still serving jehova.
I must say that what yopu say , is the problem to bee an, we are nor perfekt, and can not bee, in this
system. Even in first christian they have the same problems, onlöy to read letters from Paul to diffrent Cong in first cnturi.
we must overlook this bad things happend, we now jehova sees this, and i am sertain that satan try very hard to break down us.
I have a very biggg expirens, grow upp as JW, have 5 children, 2 are not JW, i think you can say i an inn the liberal ving, if we use littel wordley talk.
Perhaps inn some places we now see men who are fullfilling bibel profetia, who says, it will come men among yourself who is wolfs and who put srtong burden on you.
if so, jehova will take care of it, and put things in order again.
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Liars for the Watchtower?
by JosephAlward inwere they liars for the watchtower?
some forum members have made much of the letter from the portuguese branch of the jehovahs witnesses, explaining why the watchtower affiliated with the united nations department of public information; they believe it contradicts a similar letter from britain.
in this post i rebut that argument.
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happy man
here in sweden i dont think anyone nows about this UN thing, only few as read on internet, i have littel hard to understand the bigg noice, when i see the new movie about russian JW, it was a lot of Un opeopel intervjud, on this matters,
perhaps it is esyer to have statment if you are a member of NGO, just a proposal.